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Max · #1 Post by **Max** » 27 Apr 2018 09:40

Hey There,

I've just seen the following CDs/LPs listed on EMP as Digi-Pack / Gatefold, remixed, Double CD!
https://www.emp.de/p/tales-from-the-twi ... ml#start=5 (German EMP Website)

BOF
FTB
TFTTW
SFB

Release Date: 27.07.2018

I am really exited since these are Double CDs...
Does that mean more demos or unreleased live Versions which where hinted in Interviews around the release of Live Beyond the Spheres?

Any ideas?

priderock · #2 Post by **priderock** » 28 Apr 2018 11:52

Again???
Don't get me wrong - I'll buy it, but whats the point of releasing every year a new version of the first albums especially... I'm still waiting for a Remixed version of A Twist In The Myth and a new version of At The Edge Of Time without the clipings and the beep sound in Curse My Name... Thats what we need.. Anyway, it looks interesting and hope it's true

Traveller in Time · #3 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 28 Apr 2018 16:56

Interesting.... i go for the vinyls. The CDs i do not know.... maybe if the second disc has some new stuff.
Good that i ave not bought the remastered BOF which was released just shortly.

BTW NIME had its 20th anniversary 4 days ago

Traveller in Time · #4 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 29 Apr 2018 12:10

Just to be sure

We have the originals (NRR and Virgin)

Then we have:

The Remasters Series 2007(Virgin/EMI)
A Traveler´s Guide to Space and Time 2013(Virgin/EMI)
Re-Releases Nuclear Blast 2007/2017 NB Re-Releases
Re-Releases double CD/vinyl Nuclear Blast 2018

priderock · #5 Post by **priderock** » 29 Apr 2018 12:16

Traveller in Time wrote: ↑
29 Apr 2018 12:10
Just to be sure

We have the originals (NRR and Virgin)

Then we have:

The Remasters Series 2007(Virgin/EMI)

A Traveler´s Guide to Space and Time 2013(Virgin/EMI)

Re-Releases Nuclear Blast 2007/2017 NB Re-Releases

Re-Releases double CD/vinyl Nuclear Blast 2018

That's not the main issue. It' nice that they are revisiting their catalouge. The main thing is that we receive the same albums and still nothing about ATITM and ATEOT...

Traveller in Time · #6 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 29 Apr 2018 13:45

it was no critics at all, just wanted to be sure about the different versions. I like that we got the chance to buy some old albums on vinyl again.
Personally i don`t need a remixed ATEOT or ATITM. I am fine with the old ones. But yeah if i could hear the beep in curse my name and so on i would have a different opinion.
I am still wondering why the did not offer a corrected version via download or something else.

priderock · #7 Post by **priderock** » 29 Apr 2018 14:17

I know your post was not critical

As for your question, I think there was a download version for Curse My Name for a very short time in mp3, but this doesn't fix the situation. Personally I would like to have an album in my collection without any mistakes. Having a fixed version out of the album is not what I'm searching for.. Neither in only mp3... As for ATITM I still find this as their only production that hurts my ears somehow... and really flat..

Traveller in Time · #8 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 03 May 2018 21:19

some days ago the release date for those 2CD re-releases was postponed to September, and now they are deleted from database at EMP.
Really strange...

Max · #9 Post by **Max** » 04 May 2018 08:29

Hmm.. I've seen that they were removed from database.
I did not see the postponing...
But this indicates that the date is not fixed. This correlates with the fact that nowhere else are hints towards those re-releases...

I will track the NB pre-order and EMP database to see if they reappear.

This could also mean, that those releases were were a mistake...

Traveller in Time · #10 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 31 May 2018 22:39

And they are back

https://www.emp.de/search?q=blind+guardian&lang=de_DE

Traveller in Time · #11 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 05 Jun 2018 22:27

and gone again..... well that is gonna be a beautiful on/off relationship

Max · #12 Post by **Max** » 07 Jun 2018 09:57

Seems like EMP is updating the catalogue at the end of the month and they appear and in the beginning of the next month they are made hidden again...

Again the first 4 Albums as remixed double cd - the descrption did not change.
The date was last at 14th of September, which is friday. -> usual day of release.

Traveller in Time · #13 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 11 Jun 2018 21:05

i have contacted NB, there will be news about those releases at the end of this month.

Traveller in Time · #14 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 19 Jun 2018 19:38

https://ibb.co/i41BvJ revealed. At least Exact Release date

There will be 2 coloured vinyl limited to 300 and 2 coloured vinyl limited to 500 and black no small limits

An the scond disc will be original version, first 2012 remix

Traveller in Time · #15 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 22 Jun 2018 16:24

https://media.nuclearblast.de/shoplandi ... ssues.html

priderock · #16 Post by **priderock** » 25 Jun 2018 12:29

So, first of all, I'm really happy about that! The only think I don't like is that there'e still no ATITM and ATEOT here.
Some additional news: the vinyl version of Nightfall in Middle Earth will contain the 2 unfinished tracks

As we all know, one of them was Doom but it will be changed lyrical wise and the second song will be completely new.
My only question is how will they fit in the old mix. Maybe they'll add them only on the vinyl with the 2012 remixes, but if I have to be honest, I prefer the originals. Though the remixes are great.

priderock · #17 Post by **priderock** » 26 Jun 2018 10:36

And one more question - what does remixed 2012/remastered 2018 means?
That we'll get the two versions of each album - the remixed 2012 versions and the original ones? And that's why there are 2 discs? Or that we'll get the ATGTSAT versions but with 2018 remaster?

priderock · #18 Post by **priderock** » 26 Jun 2018 15:39

Ok, I think I got it - The 2 CD box will have both versions, but I still can't find if the vinyls will contain the original versions or the ones from ATGTSAT?
Hope it will contain the original ones. As an almost new fan, I really want to get the original ones also on vinyl but it seems that my only chance will be the remixed ones, which I don't know if I like more or less(except ANATO which is - yeah - really awesome).

ErHaO · #19 Post by **ErHaO** » 27 Jun 2018 12:50

Nice to see them rereleasing the original versions, along with the 2012 remixes outside of the boxset (hopefully with better masters).

priderock wrote: ↑
25 Jun 2018 12:29
Some additional news: the vinyl version of Nightfall in Middle Earth will contain the 2 unfinished tracks
As we all know, one of them was Doom but it will be changed lyrical wise and the second song will be completely new.
My only question is how will they fit in the old mix. Maybe they'll add them only on the vinyl with the 2012 remixes, but if I have to be honest, I prefer the originals muuch better. Those remixes are great, but so stripped at the same time. The soul is just not there

Where did you get this from? As far as I can see there isn't even a NiME rerelease and I doubt it would contain new(old) material opossed to the other releases, as well as making them exclusive to the vinyl version.

priderock · #20 Post by **priderock** » 27 Jun 2018 13:55

https://powerfulpodcast.simplecast.fm/

He said it here a few days ago, but I can't remember the exact minute

ErHaO · #21 Post by **ErHaO** » 27 Jun 2018 16:04

priderock wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2018 13:55
https://powerfulpodcast.simplecast.fm/

He said it here a few days ago, but I can't remember the exact minute

Awesome, just checked and he says it somewhere around the 46-47 minute mark. Songs will be Doom with other lyrics and Tides of War.

Max · #22 Post by **Max** » 27 Jun 2018 22:43

Official announced
https://m.facebook.com/blindguardian/ph ... 13/?type=3

First 4 September
Next 6 in 2019

Traveller in Time · #23 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 27 Jun 2018 23:48

Thanks for the info about the additional NIME songs. Just on vinyl or will they be on the discs as well?

damn so many colours for the vinyl releases besides black
There is:
Battalions of fear:

Violet limited to 500
Blue limited to 700
Light blue limited to 500
White (US Import) limited to 700
orange white splatter (collector's box and US Import) limited to 500 / 700

Follow the blind

Green limited to 500
Blue (US Import) limited to 700
White limited to 300
Forest green with white splatter (US) limited to 300
neon yellow blue splatter (collector's box) limited to 500

Tales from the twilligt hall:

Brown (US Import) limited to 700
Gold limited to 500
Blue limited to 500
white-silver bi coloured (collector's box) limited to 500
yellow-orange splatter (US) limited to 300

Somewhere far beyond:

Blue limited to 500
Yellow limited to 500
Orange (US Import) limited to 700
Light blue with blue splatter (US) limited to 300
White-red bi coloured(collector's box) limited to 500

Btw you get at german NB 18% off till tomorrow (voucher: 18AUFALLES), so if you want to buy them all.......

Sadly some US imports are already sold out

priderock · #24 Post by **priderock** » 28 Jun 2018 08:29

You're welcome.
Well, I think that the 2 new songs will be also on the CD version or at least that's what I hope so. Actually, it's great that they release those remixes on vinyl. Honestly, I don't know if I like them more or less than the original ones

At some points they're more cinematic but on the other hand I fell likes there's something missing - which might be just some kind of a nostalgia to the old ones.
For example, the Bard's Song and Imaginations From The Other Side sounds a little bit stripped in the chorus

I don't know...What do you guys think?
But I'll buy them that's for sure - having the new mix of NIME + 2 new songs = fucking epic adventure

Traveller in Time · #25 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 28 Jun 2018 22:42

i agree with you for me the original ones sound more "organic" and "realistic" while the remixes are with strength but also too smooth. i did like the new synthesizer sound of e.g. the bells on Imaginations.
maybe i am used to the old and i have personal memories on them that is why they are for me more familiar.
Really i cannot explain exactly.

Traveller in Time · #26 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 28 Jun 2018 23:00

And new merchandise

https://www.emp.de/search?q=blind+guardian&lang=de_DE

I do like Somwhere far beyond, because it is connected to the original artwork...

edit: ah and again off, same procedure as every ......

priderock · #27 Post by **priderock** » 06 Jul 2018 08:54

Ok, so, in the past couple of days I tried once again the Travellers Guide, cause I haven't listened to it since it almost came out. After listening to SFB, IFTOS, NIME and ANATO albums a couple of times, I have to say that I wasn't really right about it. This time I tried it on my new sound system and the result is actually really outstanding. Actually, everything is still there - the places where the sound comes from is just different at some points, but the level of cinematic is probably way higher. I was absolutely blown away at the end of my listening session. Some of the highlights are probably the whole ANATO album, songs like Curse Of Feanor(I doubt that I'll ever hear a better theatrical piece of music in my life with such a clean, beautiful and strong vocal lines), Theatre Of Pain, Into The Storm, Thorn, Noldor and many more.
At the same time I realised that the band has tried not to improve that much The Bard song, as to make it more different - which is also great!
At least now I know that the result is at least as good as the old ones, if not even better - it seems that I was just struggling with some kind of a nostalgia.
Aaand, really can't wait to take them on vinyls

Max · #28 Post by **Max** » 12 Jul 2018 14:45

Merch is back again:

Release ist stated: 10.08.2018

Tales: https://www.emp.de/p/tales-from-the-twi ... 84405.html
BOF: https://www.emp.de/p/battalions-of-fear/384403.html
FTB: https://www.emp.de/p/follow-the-blind/384404.html
SFB: https://www.emp.de/p/somewhere-far-beyond/384406.html

Too bad it is fruit of the loom... (often poor quality)
Also regular cut ... (which means short and wide)

I guess I get them, when they are getting cheaper
My focus is on the CDs

Traveller in Time · #29 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 17 Jul 2018 21:11

Nuclear Blast has some new merch stuff, too.

https://www.nuclearblast.de/de/shop/art ... order.html

Max · #30 Post by **Max** » 20 Jul 2018 09:35

That's what I was waiting/hoping for !
Classic Album Cover Shirts/Hoodie.

(damn... again froot of the loom...)

Anyway, I'll buy all

Traveller in Time · #31 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 20 Jul 2018 13:57

All Cds, all vinyls, all Merchandise?

Max · #32 Post by **Max** » 23 Jul 2018 10:34

sorry...
All double CDs and probably all "retro"-Shirts and maybe the zipper.

Dragonfly · #33 Post by **Dragonfly** » 14 Sep 2018 22:03

So has anyone checked out these new reissues? Inclusion of originals (most of which are quite pricey these days) makes this a worthwhile purchase I suppose.

priderock · #34 Post by **priderock** » 15 Sep 2018 22:11

Yes, can't wait to buy all of them for Christmas. Hope they won't be sold out.

Dragonfly · #35 Post by **Dragonfly** » 16 Sep 2018 23:18

I don't think they will sell out that soon. And there's multiple versions for each album, too, as is usual for Nuclear Blast, so you can get a different one if yours is gone.
By the way, there's a sweet unboxing video from Marcus and Hansi which I enjoyed very much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72CWJXAtABA Looks cool, but I can foresee some controversy regarding the addition of new artwork to classic albums which is clearly inferior to the original, in my opinion.

priderock · #36 Post by **priderock** » 17 Sep 2018 12:59

Yeah, I'm interested in the black vinyl versions and as far as I can see they're not limited

Can't wait for all of these.., especially about the NIME with the 2 additional songs and ANATO

Dragonfly · #37 Post by **Dragonfly** » 17 Sep 2018 13:50

I don't know... has it been confirmed that the Nightfall re-release will feature those two bonus tracks? I thought it was just speculation at this point...

priderock · #38 Post by **priderock** » 17 Sep 2018 14:43

Yes, Tides Of War will take it's place between Nightfall and Curse Of Feanor, as for Doom(with different vocals and lyrics), Hansi said it, so I guess it has to be true. I'm just curious when we will get some info from Nuclear Blast about the next 4

Dragonfly · #39 Post by **Dragonfly** » 18 Sep 2018 23:31

Well then, that seems to be a fairly intriguing new look at Nightfall In Middle-Earth with two extra songs.

priderock · #40 Post by **priderock** » 19 Sep 2018 12:48

Dragonfly wrote: ↑
18 Sep 2018 23:31
Well then, that seems to be a fairly intriguing new look at Nightfall In Middle-Earth with two extra songs.

Absolutely

Traveller in Time · #41 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 21 Sep 2018 03:02

Vinyls for IFTOS, NIME and ANATO are on presale now

some strange thing on IFTOS there is on side D "The Wizard" and "System's failing", well it could be working title (so a demo version) of i'm alive...

Side D (bonus)
01. The Wizard
02. System’s Failing

On Nime there is Doom, Tides of war and harvest of sorrow as bonus tracks

priderock · #42 Post by **priderock** » 21 Sep 2018 10:22

On RockHard magazine Hansi wrote that Tides Of War will take it's place between Nightfall and Curse Of Feanor but on the vinyl it's just the last track

I'm also amazed that Doom has kept it's name though it will be with different lyrics. Seems we'll have to wait since we can hear those two

Anyway, this is a totally different look at NIME. If I have to be honest, i never liked that much A Dark Passage as a final track, cause most of the times I finish listening the album after Thorn or The Eldar.

priderock · #43 Post by **priderock** » 21 Sep 2018 13:20

Ok, on IFTOS and ANATO descriptions it writes remixed and remastered 2011/2012?
What does this means since all the remixes were done in 2012? I trully hope there's nothing from Memories Of A time To Come on those vinyls...

Traveller in Time · #44 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 21 Sep 2018 14:56

As far as i understood these were the Remixes/Remasters of the Boxset A Travelers's Guide through Space and Time Boxset.
But you are right Memories of a Time to come was released 2012, so big question is if the re-recorded or remixed songs are used for the re-release, on the other side it would be mentioned that they are re-recorded or remixed.
There is just the word remastered, so in my opinion you can expect the songs in the version of the box above.

detailed description of IFTOS, NIME and ANATO:
https://www.nuclearblast.de/de/label/mu ... lagen.html

priderock · #45 Post by **priderock** » 21 Sep 2018 15:10

Traveller in Time wrote: ↑
21 Sep 2018 14:56
As far as i understood these were the Remixes/Remasters of the Boxset A Travelers's Guide through Space and Time Boxset.
But you are right Memories of a Time to come was released 2012, so big question is if the re-recorded or remixed songs are used for the re-release, on the other side it would be mentioned that they are re-recorded or remixed.
There is just the word remastered, so in my opinion you can expect the songs in the version of the box above.

detailed description of IFTOS, NIME and ANATO:
https://www.nuclearblast.de/de/label/mu ... lagen.html

OK, thanks, man! It seems that the versions are the same as the ones from ATGTSAT. Maybe they're not just mixed in 2012, but also in 2011 and that's why it writes 2011/2012.
Memories Of A Time To Come's ATTWS is so empty that I really don't want to find it here...

Dragonfly · #46 Post by **Dragonfly** » 24 Sep 2018 23:59

Weird thing - in the new remastered version of Imaginations From The Other Side, The Script For My Requiem is 6.54 long. What did they do to it that it got 45 seconds extra? I remember that the demo version of the song is over 7 minutes, and I wonder if it's got anything to do with that.

priderock · #47 Post by **priderock** » 25 Sep 2018 08:08

Dragonfly wrote: ↑
24 Sep 2018 23:59
Weird thing - in the new remastered version of Imaginations From The Other Side, The Script For My Requiem is 6.54 long. What did they do to it that it got 45 seconds extra? I remember that the demo version of the song is over 7 minutes, and I wonder if it's got anything to do with that.

WOW! You've never heard the version for ATGTSAT? It's the same version with the violin and piano outro. To me, the song is way better with this part. It opens some new dimensions

Dragonfly · #48 Post by **Dragonfly** » 25 Sep 2018 12:05

priderock wrote: ↑
25 Sep 2018 08:08

Dragonfly wrote: ↑
24 Sep 2018 23:59
Weird thing - in the new remastered version of Imaginations From The Other Side, The Script For My Requiem is 6.54 long. What did they do to it that it got 45 seconds extra? I remember that the demo version of the song is over 7 minutes, and I wonder if it's got anything to do with that.
WOW! You've never heard the version for ATGTSAT? It's the same version with the violin and piano outro. To me, the song is way better with this part. It opens some new dimensions

Hmmm, I guess I have some exploring to do. No, I've never heard of it... Thanks for the information!

Warmoth · #49 Post by **Warmoth** » 26 Sep 2018 17:43

I love Blind Guardian, don't get me wrong. But I currently have 54 Blind Guardian albums in my digital library to sift through and it's getting a little absurd.

I'm the idiot who has to buy everything with their name on it. I'm fighting myself on whether I should buy these 2-disc digipacks, since I already own them all in more way than one. (I did buy the new vinyl versions..). Does anyone have them, and have anything to say about the packaging maybe? The do sound fantastic on Vinyl.

Also, since this looks like the thread for it - To be honest, the new artwork is a little underwhelming in the LP gatefolds. "Somewhere Far Beyond" Is pretty awesome. I think Hansi even commented on that. But I really see no point in the rest. There's no focal points. It's background art. Literally and metaphorically. I hope they change up the art a bit on the upcoming NEW releases (I thought "Live Beyond the Spheres" was excellent).

Also, let's talk about "System's Failing" on Imaginations From the Other Side? What is this??

Dragonfly · #50 Post by **Dragonfly** » 26 Sep 2018 21:17

Warmoth wrote: ↑
26 Sep 2018 17:43
Does anyone have them, and have anything to say about the packaging maybe? The do sound fantastic on Vinyl.

Not sure if you've seen this video, but it may help you get a notion of the packaging: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72CWJXAtABA I think the digipaks look nice though I've grown to appreciate standard jewel case CDs more over the years - they're more durable. I actually planned getting one of the digipaks - Follow The Blind - on Amazon.co.uk but it just so happened that on the very day of release the price skyrocketed from 11.99 to 17.96 I think. The same happened to the new verison of Somewhere Far Beyond, but not Tales From The Twilight World or Battalions Of Fear. Very strange. So I thought it was a bit too pricey for just a standard 2 CD digipak and got the 2017 remaster instead.

Warmoth wrote: ↑
26 Sep 2018 17:43
Also, since this looks like the thread for it - To be honest, the new artwork is a little underwhelming in the LP gatefolds. "Somewhere Far Beyond" Is pretty awesome. I think Hansi even commented on that. But I really see no point in the rest. There's no focal points. It's background art. Literally and metaphorically. I hope they change up the art a bit on the upcoming NEW releases (I thought "Live Beyond the Spheres" was excellent).

I agree. I wish they changed the artist for at least a little while. Machado did a great job for At The Edge Of Time artwork but since then nothing really impressed me all that much (apart from some images for Beyond The Red Mirror). And he's repetitive in my opinion. If only they could bring Andreas Marschall back... Live Beyond The Spheres was a welcome change though, you nailed it!

Warmoth wrote: ↑
26 Sep 2018 17:43
Also, let's talk about "System's Failing" on Imaginations From the Other Side? What is this??

Yeah, I don't know what it is either. Reminds me of that line in Sacred Worlds but they're hardly related.

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