Blind Guardian's 10th Album, "Beyond the Red Mirror"

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Dragonfly · #151 Post by **Dragonfly** » 08 Sep 2014 18:16

Okay, it's been three pages of speculations and hopes with still nothing official concerning the new album... We've made it this far and we're still alive! HOOOORAAAY!!!! Cheers everyone!

Blind Guardian fans are the most steadfast and resilient fans on the face of the planet!

Gandalf de Grijze · #152 Post by **Gandalf de Grijze** » 08 Sep 2014 22:18

They are gods, and my faith is strong and unwavering!
I do not need signs to know they exist, I do not need signs to know that whatever it is they do, it will be perfect.
For they are the bards, and they will do as they please and in doing so, they will please us!

Dragonfly · #153 Post by **Dragonfly** » 08 Sep 2014 22:37

Gandalf de Grijze wrote:They are gods, and my faith is strong and unwavering!
I do not need signs to know they exist, I do not need signs to know that whatever it is they do, it will be perfect.
For they are the bards, and they will do as they please and in doing so, they will please us!

Amen!

...and good night!

bestpike · #154 Post by **bestpike** » 10 Sep 2014 13:19

Dragonfly wrote:
Gandalf de Grijze wrote:They are gods, and my faith is strong and unwavering!
I do not need signs to know they exist, I do not need signs to know that whatever it is they do, it will be perfect.
For they are the bards, and they will do as they please and in doing so, they will please us!
Amen!

...and good night!

Either something profound happened to Gandalf or he is trolling

. I haven't seen him that passionate (iirc) about any album release until now

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bestpike · #155 Post by **bestpike** » 15 Sep 2014 21:28

Wow, if September goes out without news, it will be maybe the driest BG period ever?

Dragonfly · #156 Post by **Dragonfly** » 18 Sep 2014 14:28

bestpike wrote:Wow, if September goes out without news, it will be maybe the driest BG period ever?

Yet there is still some hope left.

bestpike · #157 Post by **bestpike** » 18 Sep 2014 18:57

Dragonfly wrote:
bestpike wrote:Wow, if September goes out without news, it will be maybe the driest BG period ever?
Yet there is still some hope left.

The last vestige of hope lives in the hidden king
Only he troubles the dark one's mind
Only he could bring ruin to the black foe
Though the land lies down in agony and the curse lives on
A new star shall arise
And a new day shall come, again

Dragonfly · #158 Post by **Dragonfly** » 18 Sep 2014 19:11

bestpike wrote:
Dragonfly wrote:
bestpike wrote:Wow, if September goes out without news, it will be maybe the driest BG period ever?
Yet there is still some hope left.
The last vestige of hope lives in the hidden king
Only he troubles the dark one's mind
Only he could bring ruin to the black foe
Though the land lies down in agony and the curse lives on
A new star shall arise
And a new day shall come, again

And a new album shall come, again!

Ryu · #159 Post by **Ryu** » 23 Sep 2014 22:55

Yes, at this rate it does seem quite likely we'll go an entire 12 month period without any news.

I am so, so ready to be inundated in the news and publicity when it does start.

Isis65 · #160 Post by **Isis65** » 23 Sep 2014 23:05

Gandalf de Grijze wrote: NEXT years best album i think

bestpike · #161 Post by **bestpike** » 24 Sep 2014 11:54

Ryu wrote:Yes, at this rate it does seem quite likely we'll go an entire 12 month period without any news.

I am so, so ready to be inundated in the news and publicity when it does start.

Haha indeed, it's the calm before the storm. Soon the Blind Guardian bears (fans) will wake up from hibernation

Gandalf de Grijze · #162 Post by **Gandalf de Grijze** » 24 Sep 2014 13:04

*yyyaaaaawwnnn*

someone said something about news?

no?

*returns to cave and sleep*

Isis65 · #163 Post by **Isis65** » 25 Sep 2014 14:07

Gandalf de Grijze wrote:They are gods, and my faith is strong and unwavering!
I do not need signs to know they exist, I do not need signs to know that whatever it is they do, it will be perfect.
For they are the bards, and they will do as they please and in doing so, they will please us!

I am an atheist rationalist.
I only believe in tangible facts.
I do not believe in the existence of a new album of Blind Guardian.
And I'm beginning to doubt about the existence of Blind Guardian.

Traveller in Time · #164 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 25 Sep 2014 21:31

The vision's bleak
And its color is black
Far beyond
There's a starving
But dying sun

I am so close to use the contact button

Btw does anybody know what happened to the documentation "Traveler's at the edge of time"?

Gandalf de Grijze · #165 Post by **Gandalf de Grijze** » 25 Sep 2014 23:21

Isis65 wrote:
Gandalf de Grijze wrote:They are gods, and my faith is strong and unwavering!
I do not need signs to know they exist, I do not need signs to know that whatever it is they do, it will be perfect.
For they are the bards, and they will do as they please and in doing so, they will please us!

I am an atheist rationalist.
I only believe in tangible facts.
I do not believe in the existence of a new album of Blind Guardian.
And I'm beginning to doubt about the existence of Blind Guardian.

you gotta have faith, faith, faith:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3VTngm1F0

Ryu · #166 Post by **Ryu** » 26 Sep 2014 02:23

They knew that we knew there would be something wrong when they started booking shows for a year or more in to the future.

Just wish they'd been like, "OH YEAH BY THE WAY, FANBASE... THAT MAY 2014 PREDICTION? HAHAHA!"

Isis65 · #167 Post by **Isis65** » 26 Sep 2014 19:34

Gandalf de Grijze wrote: you gotta have faith, faith, faith:

Pfui!
The faith isn't part of my life.

(neither George Michael....)

Dragonfly · #168 Post by **Dragonfly** » 27 Sep 2014 14:06

There's a strange thing I just stumbled upon... The website where tickets for the show in Gothenburg on May 29th can be bought says the following: "Den sextonde januari kommer Blind Guardians ännu obetitlade nya album, det är deras tolfte studioalbum sedan debuten ”Battalions Of Fear” som kom 1988..." (The link: https://www.biljettforum.se/direkte/?to ... 6lEkSPgBWb. You can switch the language to English). They state that the new yet untitled Blind Guardian album will be out on January 16th.

Now the question is if it's true and how the hell did they get that information...

bestpike · #169 Post by **bestpike** » 27 Sep 2014 21:15

Dragonfly wrote:There's a strange thing I just stumbled upon... The website where tickets for the show in Gothenburg on May 29th can be bought says the following: "Den sextonde januari kommer Blind Guardians ännu obetitlade nya album, det är deras tolfte studioalbum sedan debuten ”Battalions Of Fear” som kom 1988..." (The link: https://www.biljettforum.se/direkte/?to ... 6lEkSPgBWb. You can switch the language to English). They state that the new yet untitled Blind Guardian album will be out on January 16th.
Now the question is if it's true and how the hell did they get that information...

doesn't seem too far fetched, but who knows.

Dragonfly · #170 Post by **Dragonfly** » 27 Sep 2014 23:52

bestpike wrote:
Dragonfly wrote:There's a strange thing I just stumbled upon... The website where tickets for the show in Gothenburg on May 29th can be bought says the following: "Den sextonde januari kommer Blind Guardians ännu obetitlade nya album, det är deras tolfte studioalbum sedan debuten ”Battalions Of Fear” som kom 1988..." (The link: https://www.biljettforum.se/direkte/?to ... 6lEkSPgBWb. You can switch the language to English). They state that the new yet untitled Blind Guardian album will be out on January 16th.
Now the question is if it's true and how the hell did they get that information...
doesn't seem too far fetched, but who knows.

Actually it would be nice I think since I almost completely gave up hoping for a 2014 release.
It would mean less than 4 months to go which isn't that terrible.

Ryu · #171 Post by **Ryu** » 28 Sep 2014 02:01

Dragonfly wrote:
bestpike wrote:
Dragonfly wrote:There's a strange thing I just stumbled upon... The website where tickets for the show in Gothenburg on May 29th can be bought says the following: "Den sextonde januari kommer Blind Guardians ännu obetitlade nya album, det är deras tolfte studioalbum sedan debuten ”Battalions Of Fear” som kom 1988..." (The link: https://www.biljettforum.se/direkte/?to ... 6lEkSPgBWb. You can switch the language to English). They state that the new yet untitled Blind Guardian album will be out on January 16th.
Now the question is if it's true and how the hell did they get that information...
doesn't seem too far fetched, but who knows.
Actually it would be nice I think since I almost completely gave up hoping for a 2014 release.
It would mean less than 4 months to go which isn't that terrible.

And that a single is only a month or two away.

bard_92 · #172 Post by **bard_92** » 28 Sep 2014 06:47

Yeah, it would be nice if this is the release date, but there're 3 months and a half to it and still not information...is it possible ? Except if they start publishing information immediately at the beginning of October...???

Ryu · #173 Post by **Ryu** » 28 Sep 2014 07:14

bard_92 wrote:Yeah, it would be nice if this is the release date, but there're 3 months and a half to it and still not information...is it possible ? Except if they start publishing information immediately at the beginning of October...???

That seems likely, if Marcus was right in saying they're submitting it to their publisher or whatever at the end of September

Though, "we should be done or almost entirely done by May, and that's worst-case". I haven't forgotten..

bestpike · #174 Post by **bestpike** » 28 Sep 2014 11:34

Ryu wrote:
bard_92 wrote:Yeah, it would be nice if this is the release date, but there're 3 months and a half to it and still not information...is it possible ? Except if they start publishing information immediately at the beginning of October...???
That seems likely, if Marcus was right in saying they're submitting it to their publisher or whatever at the end of September

Though, "we should be done or almost entirely done by May, and that's worst-case". I haven't forgotten..

I think the tour dates show that they want to finish before April, thats when the massive touring begins. Hopefully they can make it.

Dragonfly · #175 Post by **Dragonfly** » 28 Sep 2014 14:49

Hopefully we'll get something within a few weeks or so...

bard_92 · #176 Post by **bard_92** » 28 Sep 2014 17:46

Dragonfly wrote:Hopefully we'll get something within a few weeks or so...

Yeaaah, man !!! That's exactly what my thoughts are since the last 11 months... But I still believe that the next time when I I open FB there would be some news..of course then I hope for the next day...after that for the next week...then for the other month...and that's exactly where I'm almost 1 year after the news on October 2013...

"I creep along
So desperate and tired
Let me ask you
Why?
I am what I am.."

Anyway...anyway, I still love them, just my patience not !!!

Oh, and by the way, can't wait for the moment when they would say" about the orchestral project,yeah, it might be released in 2017/18, but even in the worst case scenario, it would be published in this decade..."

Dragonfly · #177 Post by **Dragonfly** » 28 Sep 2014 20:34

bard_92 wrote:
Dragonfly wrote:Hopefully we'll get something within a few weeks or so...

Yeaaah, man !!! That's exactly what my thoughts are since the last 11 months... But I still believe that the next time when I I open FB there would be some news..of course then I hope for the next day...after that for the next week...then for the other month...and that's exactly where I'm almost 1 year ago after the news on October 2013...

"I creep along
So desperate and tired
Let me ask you
Why?
I am what I am.."

Anyway...anyway, I still love them, just my patience not !!!

Oh, and by the way, can't wait for the moment when they would say" about the orchestral project,yeah, it might be released in 2017/18, but even in the worst case scenario, it would be published in this decade..."

Pretty much my thoughts as well

And these lines from Wheel Of Time fit the situation so well...
As for the orchestral project - I'm fairly sure anyway that it won't get postponed until the next millennium which is still better than nothing!

bard_92 · #178 Post by **bard_92** » 29 Sep 2014 08:51

Dragonfly wrote:
bard_92 wrote:
Dragonfly wrote:Hopefully we'll get something within a few weeks or so...

Yeaaah, man !!! That's exactly what my thoughts are since the last 11 months... But I still believe that the next time when I I open FB there would be some news..of course then I hope for the next day...after that for the next week...then for the other month...and that's exactly where I'm almost 1 year ago after the news on October 2013...

"I creep along
So desperate and tired
Let me ask you
Why?
I am what I am.."

Anyway...anyway, I still love them, just my patience not !!!

Oh, and by the way, can't wait for the moment when they would say" about the orchestral project,yeah, it might be released in 2017/18, but even in the worst case scenario, it would be published in this decade..."
Pretty much my thoughts as well And these lines from Wheel Of Time fit the situation so well...
As for the orchestral project - I'm fairly sure anyway that it won't get postponed until the next millennium which is still better than nothing!

Yeah, absolutely agree with you about their 30th anniversary !!! Sounds promising

And somehow I prefer the orchestral project not to be published yet... I mean that I really would like to hear it, in my opinion it will be something rovolutional about the music as all...but sometime I just feel myself still not ready about it(this project will be something like a storm, like the Creation, like the Heaven in the music)...and I'm still thinking that right now there will be a lot of material with the regular album + the fact, that I almost needed around 3-4 years to fully understand the songs from the last album(for example Road of No Release, which is such an art, if I could say so...)so I think I can wait another 2-3 years for the orchestral one...but probably not for the next regular...

But that's what I like the most about Blind Guardian,
"They didn't release music very often..., but when did it.....

sciacallo010 · #179 Post by **sciacallo010** » 29 Sep 2014 10:28

bard_92 wrote:but even in the worst case scenario, it would be published in this decade..."

God no!
Now that you wrote this, it will be surely published not earlier than the next decade

Angus · #180 Post by **Angus** » 30 Sep 2014 04:02

I hate to bring this up, but with the way they have slowed down so much in recent years, how much longer do you think the band itself will last? I mean, it's been 30 years this year.

Ryu · #181 Post by **Ryu** » 30 Sep 2014 06:24

Angus wrote:I hate to bring this up, but with the way they have slowed down so much in recent years, how much longer do you think the band itself will last? I mean, it's been 30 years this year.

I think Hansi mentioned wanting to tour at least until they were of "Iron Maiden" age. Their work on the orchestral project is likely what has slowed them down.. Marcus and Fred running off to side projects has me thinking this, too.

Once the orchestral project is released, I could see them pulling off an album every 3 years, 4 tops.

Though if the 4.5 years between albums trend continues, then maybe we'll see four or five more albums from them?

There are some ancient metallers still performing these days..

Andreas · #182 Post by **Andreas** » 01 Oct 2014 12:36

I'm not an impatient person in general, but it's taking them a bit too long for my tastes. It would be a pity if the four year-rhythm they maintained since 1998, would be broken.

bestpike · #183 Post by **bestpike** » 01 Oct 2014 13:55

Andreas wrote:I'm not an impatient person in general, but it's taking them a bit too long for my tastes. It would be a pity if the four year-rhythm they maintained since 1998, would be broken.

It would be ok if they also release the orchestral album in a couple of years from now to make it up.

Ryu · #184 Post by **Ryu** » 01 Oct 2014 21:21

Well, they should be out of the studio now at least, seeing as another band had it on reserve for October.

Patience... patience? Or have we had enough of that..

Ryu · #185 Post by **Ryu** » 02 Oct 2014 06:32

I'M BURNIN' THESE HERE FORUMS DOWN SON!

bard_92 · #186 Post by **bard_92** » 02 Oct 2014 08:11

CAN'T WAAAAAIIIIIITTTTTTTT ANNYYYMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEEEEE

"Will I ever hear news,
or most probably I'll fade away
Will I ever stay where
their silence will grow...

I'm condemnded, I am desperate...

Andreas · #187 Post by **Andreas** » 02 Oct 2014 10:08

bestpike wrote:
Andreas wrote:I'm not an impatient person in general, but it's taking them a bit too long for my tastes. It would be a pity if the four year-rhythm they maintained since 1998, would be broken.
It would be ok if they also release the orchestral album in a couple of years from now to make it up.

The only thing that would restore my belief in BG after breaking their rhythm, would be a very quick release of the orchestral project.

bestpike · #188 Post by **bestpike** » 02 Oct 2014 16:49

Andreas wrote:
bestpike wrote:
Andreas wrote:I'm not an impatient person in general, but it's taking them a bit too long for my tastes. It would be a pity if the four year-rhythm they maintained since 1998, would be broken.
It would be ok if they also release the orchestral album in a couple of years from now to make it up.
The only thing that would restore my belief in BG after breaking their rhythm, would be a very quick release of the orchestral project.

For a long time fan it's amazing how slow the releases feel, so the current rhythm is too slow for me anyway

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Ryu · #189 Post by **Ryu** » 03 Oct 2014 02:48

Hansi Kursch, circa 18th October, 2013, telling his fans of the upcoming Blind Guardian record.

Traveller in Time · #190 Post by **Traveller in Time** » 04 Oct 2014 01:41

By announcing this live appearance we also secretly announced the intended termination of our album production for the end of May. We obviously have progressed quickly, in Blind Guardian terms that is. Indeed, everything looks very promising with regards to our songwriting and our production. We have good reasons to believe that the album is going to be completely finished at that point. Let’s hope I will not be proven to be the reincarnation of good old Münchhausen again.

bestpike · #191 Post by **bestpike** » 04 Oct 2014 03:05

Mostly I was impressed by some of the songs, which we have not played live so far, “Noldor” and “The Curse of Feanor” in particular. I immediately decided that we have to play one or the other in 2014. So, it truly is something to look forward to. Sounds like a (false) promise, I already made some time ago, doesn’t it? History repeats itself, some mean people would say, and that life is a constant “Battlefield” – which reminds me of another great song of ours…

Another nice one

. At least he immediately states that this could be a false promise.

bard_92 · #192 Post by **bard_92** » 04 Oct 2014 06:08

Check this one guys, made me laugh Soo Muuuch ! Listen, listen:

"Blind Guardian
20 september 2010 г. ·
Guess where we have been last Friday? In the rehearsal room? Of course not - though we probably should. We have been in Prague doing some more recordings for the orchestral album. It sounds outstanding! You may have to wait a little while until you will be able to judge it yourself but it will be worth the waiting. Promised:-)"

It's almost 2015 now and still not news

I like them so much

I hope that the guys wouldn't get us wrong... I mean, I can wait...This is the band that learned me to patience !!!, but I just need news, is that too much ???

bestpike · #193 Post by **bestpike** » 04 Oct 2014 08:53

I'm also not very happy with the on-hold status of Demons & Wizards. It's been 9 long years since the last release...

sciacallo010 · #194 Post by **sciacallo010** » 04 Oct 2014 16:55

bestpike wrote:I'm also not very happy with the on-hold status of Demons & Wizards. It's been 9 long years since the last release...

Here we can't blame only Hansi, there's also Schaffer who from the last D&W album released 4 studio albums, 1 live, 2 DVDs, 2 box sets and a collection with Iced Earth plus all the touring (and now he just underwent a surgery).

bestpike · #195 Post by **bestpike** » 04 Oct 2014 18:36

sciacallo010 wrote:
bestpike wrote:I'm also not very happy with the on-hold status of Demons & Wizards. It's been 9 long years since the last release...
Here we can't blame only Hansi, there's also Schaffer who from the last D&W album released 4 studio albums, 1 live, 2 DVDs, 2 box sets and a collection with Iced Earth plus all the touring (and now he just underwent a surgery).

You're probably right on this. I just wasn't expecting 9 years. The project can be probably considered dead.

Rokubota · #196 Post by **Rokubota** » 06 Oct 2014 18:39

Demons and Wizards is better dead IMO. Schaffer songwriting got really worse since then and Hansi isn't as inspired as the old days. Both are past their prime and IMO they don´t have anything new to offer.

Blind guardian

I have faith in them and their talent but I'm not expecting a truly remarkable album from them this later in their career, just another record with three or four very enjoyable songs and that's it.

sciacallo010 · #197 Post by **sciacallo010** » 06 Oct 2014 21:01

Rokubota wrote:Demons and Wizards is better dead IMO. Schaffer songwriting got really worse since then and Hansi isn't as inspired as the old days. Both are past their prime and IMO they don´t have anything new to offer.

Blind guardian

I have faith in them and their talent but I'm not expecting a truly remarkable album from them this later in their career, just another record with three or four very enjoyable songs and that's it.

I disagree, BG's last album, to me, is totally amazing and also Iced Earth last one is a pretty good album.

bestpike · #198 Post by **bestpike** » 07 Oct 2014 00:40

sciacallo010 wrote:
Rokubota wrote:Demons and Wizards is better dead IMO. Schaffer songwriting got really worse since then and Hansi isn't as inspired as the old days. Both are past their prime and IMO they don´t have anything new to offer.

Blind guardian

I have faith in them and their talent but I'm not expecting a truly remarkable album from them this later in their career, just another record with three or four very enjoyable songs and that's it.
I disagree, BG's last album, to me, is totally amazing and also Iced Earth last one is a pretty good album.

I mostly agree with Rokubota. It could be though that Sciacallo's post has some merit. Maybe ATEOT was slightly better than ATITM, and the new album could continue this upward trend.

Angus · #199 Post by **Angus** » 08 Oct 2014 22:30

I'd actually say that ATEOT is significantly better than ATITM.

bestpike · #200 Post by **bestpike** » 08 Oct 2014 22:55

Angus wrote:I'd actually say that ATEOT is significantly better than ATITM.

You know, I mostly thought I agreed with you, however I thought about it again while writing the previous post, and I realised maybe on average it's only slightly better (or maybe even worse). As a consistent album, definitely Ateot is the stronger contender. It reminds me of the comparison between Number of the Beast and Powerslave. The former has 3 hallmark songs and the others are fillers, the other is a very strong album as a whole. It's hard to compare them. Similarly, Atitm has This will never end, Turn the Page, Fly, Another stranger me and the rest are kind of filler (of course this is only my opinion). Ateot stays at a very respectable level from start to finish, but in my opinion none of the songs reach the level of the top Atitm ones, although they come quite close. I am not really sure which one is better.

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