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#1 Post by Baby_Kürsch » 22 Apr 2011 20:24

So I picked up Blackwater Park a few months after it came out and I recall putting it in my cd player and thinking to myself "This fucking sucks!" So about 10 years later on my way to work I see it in my cd case and decided to pop it in, knowing I didn't like it the first time I listened to it, and for the life me of I have no idea why I dismissed the album so quickly. Its pretty fantastic!! But where do I go from here? Is Opeth one of those bands like King Diamond and their discography stands the test of time or do I need to pick and choose what album I get next?
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#2 Post by Dwarfare » 22 Apr 2011 23:52

Great stuff. Deliverance & Damnation are solid, though Damnation is all mellow stuff. Many have said that they feel Watershed is too progressive, but it's still good stuff. Ghost Reveries has some pretty damn good tracks on it as well.

If you can only give one a try right now, I'd probably suggest either Deliverance or Ghost Reveries. Take your pick.

Then again, I will say that this is just, of course, my personal preference. Plenty of others prefer their early stuff best, but if you're just heavily into the early stuff, might as well just listen to Gwynbleidd. They're an unabashed copy of early Opeth, but they're good at what they do.

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#3 Post by Bender B. Rodriguez » 23 Apr 2011 04:14

i'd go for either Deliverance or My Arms, Your Hearse.

or just simply get The Roundhouse Tapes(live album )

http://opeth.com/index.php/discography/show/tpl/alive
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#4 Post by MarchOfTime » 23 Apr 2011 06:37

Ghost Reveries.... that's all ya need.....
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#5 Post by somnia » 23 Apr 2011 15:03

Still Life.

Opeth has three phases. First album is a full-on death metal with billions of melodies (not melodeath). Then they get a little more progressive with complex song structures and mood swings and all, which made the band famous. And now they are a mix of first two phases and an 80s prog rock band with keyboards and stuff, which is fantastic if you ask me. But of all these albums Still Life is considered to be the most representative, at least for the first two phases. It's the one right before Blackwater Park, I don't know if that would affect you, but it's also far superior to it imho just because it has The Moor and Godhead's Lament.

On the other hand, you should listen to all of them. Even Orchid (their first album) has great melodies in it.
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#6 Post by Feanor l'invincible » 14 Jun 2011 06:55

New opeth's album is scheduled for release in September, 20.
Here is the tracklisting of the album titled "Heritage" :

01. Heritage
02. The Devil's Orchard
03. I Feel The Dark
04. Slither
05. Nepenthe
06. Haxprocess
07. Famine
08. The Lines In My Hand
09. Folklore
10. Marrow Of The Earth

Artwork is also revealed.
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#7 Post by Bender B. Rodriguez » 17 Jun 2011 18:45

wow, 10 songs,that's rather unusual for an opeth album...
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#8 Post by Twister » 18 Jun 2011 12:35

It won't be a typical Opeth album. On the net I found those infos:
-It was played in 5.1 surround system and according to the writer the mix was good although he's usually not a fan of playing rock in other than stereo format. Åkerfeldt himself said "I first heard the record today and I didn't know they were going to play it to the media in surround. I had my doubts, but the end-result made me have goose bumps"

-It's about 56 minutes long.

-Draws to mind Sabbath, Beatles, jazz, King Crimson, Cream, Rainbow, Floyd, funk, Purple, Piirpauke, classical, My Dying Bride, folk, Love, Jethro Tull, Maiden…

-No death metal parts or growling

-No modern style of "wall of guitar tracks".

-Lots of keys, piano and mellotron are featured. Some intros include clarinet and contrabass.

- "We aren't concerned about other people's opinions", Åkerfeldt stated. "If fans of death metal can't enjoy this, that's their problem"

The band leader also said that he had grown tired of extreme metal already in the 90s, but couldn't explain why the previous record still included death growls.

"I have wanted to make a record like this since I was 20", Åkerfeldt said and added that making it would not have been possible without the metal roots that brought them success.

The journalist also says: "In any case, some metal fans will have troule with Heritage, but if your hopes are more in the 70s, this album can only work. This is probably safe to assume after a single listen.

The first 7 songs are insanely good, the other 3 a bit less so."
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http://www.inferno.fi/blogi-opeth-herit ... 20-9-4914/

Very excited about this. Fingers crossed! Didn't really like their two latest studio releases apart from a couple of songs from each album, let's see what they can do here!

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#9 Post by Frozen within » 29 Jun 2011 03:32

I think everyone who followed Opeth throughout the years saw this day coming. Personally I think it's a great step for Opeth to ditch pretty much all extreme metal elements, for they sounded forced more often than not on the last couple of albums, and held them back. This should be the liberation they needed to reach their true potential. I hope Heritage is as good as I think it is.
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#10 Post by MarchOfTime » 29 Jun 2011 18:52

I actually like the album cover lol. And while I don't think they should drop the Extreme Metal sections entirely, I must say I enjoy the softer Opeth songs, or at least the ones where Mikael actually sings. This new album sounds right up my alley in terms of sound and influence, so I'm definitely eager to hear
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#11 Post by Frozen within » 16 Jul 2011 20:07

This might be too disturbing to share this with anyone, but if there ever was a thread for this rubbish, then this is it. Anyway, I dreamt about Opeth last night. Yeah. But things were kinda goofy. For one, they had all these racks with clothes hanging from them, standing all over the stage. I remember thinking : these guys are selling out ! Things got weirder from there though. They only played really cheesy power metal, but with only clean guitars ... The fucked up part is that at that time it didn't even bother me. Fuck, I could even sing along to songs that were never theirs to begin with, or anyone else's for that matter ! But then it happened ... The people in front of the stage formed a line and they created huge fires above their heads with god knows what, while maintaining formation and spinning around. It was at exactly that point that I decided I HAD to join them, that my girlfriend woke me up.

I'm looking at what, two, three years of therapy here ?
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#12 Post by Desert_Storm » 04 Aug 2011 00:33

Has any of you guys heard the first song of the new album? I think it sounds pretty amazing: http://soundcloud.com/stereogum/opeth-t ... ls-orchard
Lots of retro-prog influences, regarding the hammond, mellotron, guitar sound, mood etc. The god-is-dead hook-line sounds kind of boring, but the rest is pretty excellent.
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#13 Post by MarchOfTime » 04 Aug 2011 02:28

I'm lovin the Devils Orchard, but I hope some of the rest of the album is a bit more like...Damnation? I like the 70s influences and a good balance of rock and proggy atmosphere will make this album great IMO
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#14 Post by Frozen within » 05 Aug 2011 20:05

I don't see myself getting into this, I hardly enjoyed any parts from the new track. Too bad, another 'heavy' band I shall neglect from this moment on.
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#15 Post by Dwarfare » 06 Aug 2011 07:15

I'm not feeling it either. Yeah, there's a few good things in there, but overall, it's just not my thing. I was never too into the 70's stuff, and the influence is definitely there. I'll give the album a spin, but I'm not thinking it'll catch (though I would assume the album will have fair variation amongst the songs). While I have liked Opeth for some time, I've been hoping for something stylistically similar to Damnation if differing in tone, but from the vibe I'm getting off this track, best reserve my hopes and money for the next album.

Not bad, of course. Not at all. Just not my thing.

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#16 Post by Lord Borbak » 10 Aug 2011 16:23

I really liked the new song and if it's representative of the rest of the album, then I'll surely check it out. The last few albums were getting a bit stale style-wise. So this musical change is a bit of fresh air for this band. Also, Mikael's growls are not what they used to be. His performance on the latest live cd/dvd was dissapointing.
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#17 Post by Frozen within » 11 Aug 2011 19:44

He definitely sounded not too far away from noob cookie monster growls indeed, when I saw him on Graspop a while ago. The music itself was out of this world, so I didn't mind too much (although it was painfully obvious at first). As big a surprise as Ghost Reveries was to me (which I think is their 2nd best album ever), after the imo very disappointing Deliverance album, I'm equally surprised this time around. Unfortunately in a bad way this time ...
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#18 Post by Gasha » 16 Aug 2011 00:17

To answer TS's question, I'd go for Still Life. One of my favorite albums of all time.

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#19 Post by Feanor l'invincible » 03 Sep 2011 13:10

It's leaked. Was reading comments, some people are so disappointed with that album, well I'll listen to it later to give my opinion.
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#20 Post by Baby_Kürsch » 03 Sep 2011 21:38

Yea they dont like it because they no longer play death metal. Only reason. The albums is pretty solid, its exactly what they said it was going to be.
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#21 Post by Frozen within » 04 Sep 2011 11:11

I for one never classified Opeth as a deathmetalband, rather as a band influenced by deathmetal, among many other elements. They've already proven to me that they can sound awesome without even the slightest sign of deathmetal parts. The Damnation album for instance manages to ooze out that typical Opeth vibe, without a single grunt or distorted guitars. Beside that album Opeth wrote a shitload of songs that have nothing to do with deathmetal, but still clearly have that Opeth feel to it. Like Face of Melinda, To bid you Farewell, Still day beneath the Sun, Burden, Harvest, Patterns in the Ivy (especially pt 2) ... With Heritage however (based on just one song, but I'm guessing it's representative for the album), it seems they've managed to push their own typical sound to the background. It's like they suddenly decided they wanted to BE a completely different band and activily searched for a new (forced) sound. They also ditched their ability to walk several paths within one song. What I mean is that I'm missing contrast with the new track. Now they just sound like a band playing prog, not like a band with its own recognizable face. And that distinguishable identity was always Opeth's backbone. Practically every song had, at some point, an 'Opeth' twist that I didn't see coming, or at least one by which I was simply blown away. I still hope that The devil's orchard will prove to be the least interesting track on Heritage, but I'm not expecting it ...
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#22 Post by MarchOfTime » 05 Sep 2011 05:02

The parts of the album that sound like damnation or are more mellow and relaxed sound much better than the 70s rock stuff in the mix. Overall, its a good album in the same way damnation was: by being different
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#23 Post by ra me nivar » 20 Oct 2011 16:54

Except for the intro, that sounds me a bit out of place, I think I like the new album quite much.

But I have some trouble hearing it from start to end: at some point of it I always think "let's go and play a Hammers of Misfortune album instead..."

As for what Opeth album to go looking for after Blackwater, go for the next and the two previous ones, Deliverance (the song named Deliverance too is the song that made me love Opeth, the 6 ending minutes are gorgeous), Still Life and My Arms, Your Hearse. Just because the song Demon of the Fall these guys would be nice even if they wanted to eat babies.

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