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How good are they?

Really Good
3
10%
Good
17
57%
Bad
5
17%
Really Bad
5
17%
 
Total votes: 30

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Sratovarius

#1 Post by Cerbere » 17 Sep 2009 00:13

From my 'I need help making a decision' thread I got the impression that you guys really did not like them. Well, think they are amazing. I don't really like Polaris that much but I think Tolkki deserved to be kicked out because he is a douche.

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#2 Post by Bender B. Rodriguez » 17 Sep 2009 00:20

i never got into this band.i wouldn't say they suck but their brand of harmless melodic power metal is really not my thing.

can you add an option up there?something along the lines of "i don't care" ?
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#3 Post by Dentarthurdent » 17 Sep 2009 00:20

never heard of Sratovarius :P
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#4 Post by Cerbere » 17 Sep 2009 00:22

Ooops, forgot the t :|

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#5 Post by jophelerks » 17 Sep 2009 01:18

They're OK, not the greatest.
The song "Forever" is nice.

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#6 Post by somnia » 17 Sep 2009 02:19

Cerbere wrote:From my 'I need help making a decision' thread I got the impression that you guys really did not like them. Well, think they are amazing. I don't really like Polaris that much but I think Tolkki deserved to be kicked out because he is a douche.
No, it's not that we don't like them. Well, I guess some don't like them and some don't care, but that's not the reason.

It's just really fun to make jokes about some bands. Stratovarius falls into this category thanks to the band's long history of (fake or not) eventful fights, with some great moments such as Jens describing Tolkki (in the official forum that is) as the fat boy leaving his friends behind to eat another cake. Rhapsody and Dragonforce are also in this category for various reasons.

Polaris is better than their last three - if not five - albums btw.
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#7 Post by Cerbere » 17 Sep 2009 03:33

Yes, but Visions is the best!

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#8 Post by Wicked Child » 17 Sep 2009 03:40

somnia wrote:
Cerbere wrote:No, it's not that we don't like them. Well, I guess some don't like them and some don't care, but that's not the reason.

It's just really fun to make jokes about some bands. Stratovarius falls into this category thanks to the band's long history of (fake or not) eventful fights, with some great moments such as Jens describing Tolkki (in the official forum that is) as the fat boy leaving his friends behind to eat another cake. Rhapsody and Dragonforce are also in this category for various reasons.
No it's not that. They're on the category of pure crap metal. That's why.
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#9 Post by Cerbere » 17 Sep 2009 03:41

Don't worry about elaborating/explaining

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#10 Post by somnia » 17 Sep 2009 04:11

Yeah, Visions is good.
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#11 Post by Palantyre » 17 Sep 2009 10:50

Cerbere wrote:Don't worry about elaborating/explaining
Doesn't need any. :P

Nah, seriously though, I used to really like them, back when Visions had just come out, and I still have some sort of warm feelings towards those early albums, but with Destiny and especially the following stuff I just got bored of them. And then the mere boredom turned to disdain. I think Kotipelto is an annoying singer, their ludicrous wanking guitar and keyboard solos are annoying, and all in all they just sound so hollow.
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#12 Post by somnia » 17 Sep 2009 15:06

Palantyre wrote:I think Kotipelto is an annoying singer, their ludicrous wanking guitar and keyboard solos are annoying, and all in all they just sound so hollow.
That's all power metal.
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#13 Post by Tanelorn » 17 Sep 2009 15:20

I think they're Good. Actually , i voted that because I like their older stuff. I think Vision is a great album.
But after Infinite, I completely unhooked of that band.. and I never heard anything new (by new, I mean after Infinite :mrgreen: )
And i didn't listened to a strato CD for years..
Not now...

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#14 Post by Envinyatar » 17 Sep 2009 16:51

I think that poll would've looked quite different 10 years ago (or maybe even 5-6 years ago). Back then I had a different opinion about the band (or about that style in general). Old stuff is still okay (e.g. Visions, like mentioned before), but I don't care about the last couple of albums.
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#15 Post by Orodaran » 17 Sep 2009 22:23

They started with different and even interesting albums in the early, Tollkki-singing era, reached stardom with some albums (Episode, Visions) that were indeed quite good, especially in the musical/historical moment they came out, and then they started a downward spiral of loss of creativity and blatant repetitions that ended in the crying shame that was the publicity stunt of 2004... that and the loss of quality in the songs sealed their fate. Without being an ass kisser to the band that hosts us, I think Blind Guardian can be taken as an example of a band that has a long stretch of creativity and always manages to stay on top musically speaking, and Stratovarius evidently don't have ten "masterpieces" albums in them. They came, they saw, they conquered some, and then they slowly but steadly disappeared, and in the end Tollkki killed the band with his problems.
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#16 Post by jophelerks » 18 Sep 2009 13:49

somnia wrote:
Palantyre wrote:I think Kotipelto is an annoying singer, their ludicrous wanking guitar and keyboard solos are annoying, and all in all they just sound so hollow.
That's all power metal.
So is Blind Guardian NOT power metal now?

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#17 Post by corrupted old gnom » 18 Sep 2009 20:28

very good

not all their albums really deserve the label "very good", but there are enough albums that do
i haven't listened to "polaris", yet
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#18 Post by Andreas » 18 Sep 2009 21:21

I only have Destiny, Infinite and Polaris. I haven't listened to Polaris that much, but I like it. Just as those other two albums. And I'm planning to buy Visions.

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#19 Post by Palantyre » 18 Sep 2009 21:38

somnia wrote:
Palantyre wrote:I think Kotipelto is an annoying singer, their ludicrous wanking guitar and keyboard solos are annoying, and all in all they just sound so hollow.
That's all power metal.
Crappy power metal, to be more precise.
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#20 Post by somnia » 18 Sep 2009 23:38

jophelerks wrote:
somnia wrote:
Palantyre wrote:I think Kotipelto is an annoying singer, their ludicrous wanking guitar and keyboard solos are annoying, and all in all they just sound so hollow.
That's all power metal.
So is Blind Guardian NOT power metal now?
No. Blind Guardian is power progressive.
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#21 Post by Dentarthurdent » 18 Sep 2009 23:44

Blind Guardian is beyond Genres. I'D call the recent Sonata Arctica-stuff progressive power metal, and BG don't sound like that. The last album you could easily put into one genre was FtB.
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#22 Post by Wicked Child » 19 Sep 2009 05:40

Blind Guardian is beyond Genres.
As every decent band should be.
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#23 Post by Pathfinder » 19 Sep 2009 08:34

I think I haven't listened enough of their albums to be sure. I think that the Ifinite was the album that I listened the longest, and I even liked it, plus some other songs, though I even can't remember from which albums. So, I'll say "good", because of what I've heard so far, but apparently, after I hear these newer albums, I will change my mind.
I would vote for OK, or not bad, if I had that option :), sooner than good.

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#24 Post by Andreas » 19 Sep 2009 21:00

I'm listening their new album right now. It's good, not exceptional. Luckily I bought it for a fairly low price.

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#25 Post by Regrin » 23 Sep 2009 06:48

They kick ass live! :P

Noone has seen them on this tour?
I would like to go and see them, just check out the setlist, well that is what I´ve found on net:

01. Hunting High And Low
02. Speed Of Light
03. The Kiss Of Judas
04. Higher We Go
05. A Million Light Years Away
06. Will The Sun Rise?
07. Twilight Symphony
08. Winter Skies
09. Phoenix
10. Bass solo
11. Forever
12. Visions
13. Eagleheart
14. TK’s drum solo
15. Deep Unknown
16. Keyboards intro Feat. Main riff from Black Night (Deep Purple)
17. Black Diamond

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#26 Post by Cerbere » 24 Sep 2009 00:20

Forever is Today is better than Winter Skies

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#27 Post by Beyonder » 17 Dec 2009 21:15

I think Strato is good although I still haven't listen to the new album is it good? :?
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#28 Post by somnia » 17 Dec 2009 21:50

Beyonder wrote:I think Strato is good although I still haven't listen to the new album is it good? :?
That, sir, is a paradox.
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#29 Post by Andreas » 17 Dec 2009 23:49

Beyonder wrote:I think Strato is good although I still haven't listen to the new album is it good? :?
Well it depends what you expect from it. Personally I think it's very decent, you might wanna listen some songs on youtube :)

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#30 Post by Cerbere » 18 Dec 2009 06:39

It's so much better than anything since Elements

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#31 Post by Orodaran » 18 Dec 2009 11:07

Not that it was that difficult to achieve, uh? :P
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#32 Post by Andreas » 18 Dec 2009 13:48

Yup, one album. Never heard it, so I can't judge

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#33 Post by Cerbere » 18 Dec 2009 21:20

Yeah self titled sucked very badly

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#34 Post by corrupted old gnom » 20 Dec 2009 23:07

Cerbere wrote:Yeah self titled sucked very badly
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#35 Post by black tooth grin » 16 Apr 2010 02:09

Stratovarius?? They are pretty talented I think. I like their melodies. I'm so excited to go see the on the 70000 tons of metal cruise ship!

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