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#51 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 08 Dec 2010 19:19

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#52 Post by rdyfrde » 09 Dec 2010 11:19

Primal Fear was just announced via the Advent Calendar thingy:

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#53 Post by corrupted old gnom » 12 Dec 2010 12:25

Trivium and Subway to Sally, too
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#54 Post by Sleeping Dragon » 12 Dec 2010 13:52

do we know if judas priest are with halford?
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#55 Post by corrupted old gnom » 12 Dec 2010 14:47

Sleeping Dragon wrote:do we know if judas priest are with halford?
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#56 Post by End Of An Era » 16 Dec 2010 21:03

Motorhead confirmed.

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#57 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 17 Dec 2010 21:21

First thing I thought was: Motorhead... again?

It's like rent three stages, get Motorhead for free.
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#58 Post by End Of An Era » 17 Dec 2010 23:31

yeah same here :lol:

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#59 Post by t.a.j. » 18 Dec 2010 10:01

I don't mind seeing Motörhead again, they're nice. But they always play so late I usually don't feel like being tired and cold any more by then.
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#60 Post by corrupted old gnom » 18 Dec 2010 12:32

t.a.j. wrote:I don't mind seeing Motörhead again, they're nice. But they always play so late I usually don't feel like being tired and cold any more by then.
one time they had the headliner spot, next time they played at 4 o'clock and ever since rather late
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#61 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 18 Dec 2010 14:57

In between their 2001 headlner spot and the graveyardshift, they once played on the Night To Remember too. That one was early on.

Couldn't have been 4 o clock though, the stages shut down at 3 am.
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#62 Post by rdyfrde » 18 Dec 2010 23:46

Woot, Rhapsody :D
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#63 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 19 Dec 2010 00:49

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#64 Post by Little Dragon » 19 Dec 2010 14:52

one reason not to go.

or to get seriously drunk with the right people and to rave at their show! 8)
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#65 Post by corrupted old gnom » 19 Dec 2010 14:56

The Rider Of Rohan wrote:In between their 2001 headlner spot and the graveyardshift, they once played on the Night To Remember too. That one was early on.
Couldn't have been 4 o clock though, the stages shut down at 3 am.
I meant 4pm
the next time after they played Night To Remember
(maybe it was 5pm or even 6pm...but it was in daylight and seemed unworthy)
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#66 Post by Andreas » 19 Dec 2010 18:32

Little Dragon wrote:one reason not to go.

or to get seriously drunk with the right people and to rave at their show! 8)
Are there actually people at Wacken who want to spoil the fun of others? That would be one reason not to go there.

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#67 Post by Little Dragon » 19 Dec 2010 18:46

You misunderstood me. That was not my plan, i meant it rather as "having ridicously much fun (and being silly), while not being a fan of the music anymore". It's more like bringing up memories from when we all were young and thought this stuff was cool.

Dammit! I can't speak about this without being at least a little insulting... sorry.

But apart from that, if you are unlucky you can met these fun-spoiler people. But when it happens you move a little away and everything is fine again.
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#68 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 19 Dec 2010 19:44

indeed, there is a huge difference between making fun of a band and spoiling teh fun of others. Or well, a few meters is all the difference we need to not do both
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#69 Post by Andreas » 20 Dec 2010 02:06

Little Dragon wrote:You misunderstood me.
Not necessarily. I was already hoping you meant what you said, it just gave me the idea.
It's more like bringing up memories from when we all were young and thought this stuff was cool.
As a fan, I can tell you I don't think their music is cool. Well, maybe a bit, but for me, most of the time music should be beautiful ;)
Dammit! I can't speak about this without being at least a little insulting... sorry.
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#70 Post by Little Dragon » 20 Dec 2010 11:38

nope, you didn't understand me. :(
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#71 Post by Andreas » 20 Dec 2010 15:27

Aw c'mon, don't be sad... of course I understood what you meant :(

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#72 Post by rdyfrde » 21 Dec 2010 05:58

Iced Earth

Cool, I'll get to see them again. The last time was way back in 2001.
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#73 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 22 Dec 2010 16:01

Good. Cradle of Filth is announced too. Which is great, because it's one of the few chances of seeing them with a proper sound.

Btw, since when is Airbourne headliner material?


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#74 Post by corrupted old gnom » 22 Dec 2010 22:29

enough headliners...I want smaller bands like Wuthering Heights or Falconer
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#75 Post by End Of An Era » 23 Dec 2010 00:28

corrupted old gnom wrote:enough headliners...I want smaller bands like Wuthering Heights or Falconer
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#76 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 23 Dec 2010 10:43

Actually, there are a lot of small bands this year... Though mainly black death and unknown ones at that.

So yeah, I support this. We have enough great and big groups. Let's add a Freedom Call, Evergrey, Holy Hell (with Eric Adams) and Labyrinth.
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#77 Post by Andreas » 23 Dec 2010 13:34

corrupted old gnom wrote:enough headliners...I want smaller bands like Wuthering Heights or Falconer
Isn't it very rare for these two bands to play live?

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#78 Post by corrupted old gnom » 23 Dec 2010 21:04

Ferdi, true...there really are a lot of small bands...but those are TOO small, IMO
those are Wet Stage at 2pm bands
I want Party Stage bands or True Metal Stage 4 pm bands
(if you know what I mean)
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Isn't it very rare for these two bands to play live?
those are the first two that popped into my mind
yes, those were rather unlikely picks because WH plays like NEVER and Falconer rarely plays live shows, too
but Falconer were at Wacken about three years ago - I'm glad I got to see'em
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#79 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 24 Dec 2010 10:20

Exodus good. Circle pit bad.
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#80 Post by Avelar » 24 Dec 2010 22:19

The attempt to ban circle pits at this year's festival was senseless. Metalheads will do what they want to do anyway. There even was a hilarious moment when Max Cavalera asked fans to start a circle pit while it was written "No circle pits! Thank you" on the video screens. :?
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#81 Post by End Of An Era » 25 Dec 2010 10:36

another thing i dislike about the current WOA organisation. it seems like there are no more metalheads in there just wanting to make a kick-ass festival!

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#82 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 25 Dec 2010 13:37

I don't think you can use that as an argument to throw against the organisation. The authorities decided to ban circle-pits at WOA 2010, the organisation was aainst the ban and campaigned heavily, with the support of the visitors, to allow them at WOA 2011. And they won. So what exactly did they do wrong again?
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#83 Post by Avelar » 27 Dec 2010 20:40

My ticket arrived today!
Gonna be an awesome festival! It will be great to see Judas Priest, Motörhead, Ozzy, Avantasia, Iced Earth, Rhapsody Of Fire, Kreator, Sodom, Morbid Angel, Exodus, and of course, Blind Guardian. I have goosebumps just writing these legendary names. :twisted: Hell yeah!!!
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#84 Post by End Of An Era » 27 Dec 2010 23:11

The Rider Of Rohan wrote:I don't think you can use that as an argument to throw against the organisation. The authorities decided to ban circle-pits at WOA 2010, the organisation was aainst the ban and campaigned heavily, with the support of the visitors, to allow them at WOA 2011. And they won. So what exactly did they do wrong again?
selling out to commerce through ridiculous merchandise articles, (ab)using the name for other fests who have nothing to do with WOA, wanting to expand beyond any reasonable numbers, raising ticketprices up until the point it juuuuust gets sold out to maximize profit and showing so few accomodities in return

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#85 Post by Avelar » 28 Dec 2010 14:06

Bad, bad wacken organizers... I don't want to go there anymore. I want to return my ticket :(
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#86 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 28 Dec 2010 15:27

selling out to commerce through ridiculous merchandise articles, (ab)using the name for other fests who have nothing to do with WOA, wanting to expand beyond any reasonable numbers, raising ticketprices up until the point it juuuuust gets sold out to maximize profit and showing so few accomodities in return
Those last two points could've applied to the 2006-2008 editions, but definetely don't apply to 2009 and 2010 editions with all the improvements made. And I honestly don't see the problem with merchandising. They could start selling Wacken Volkswagens for all that I care. I'm not forced to buy them.
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#87 Post by End Of An Era » 28 Dec 2010 15:35

Must admit 2008 was the last year i've been there (up until now) and what i described applied back then ;)
The Rider Of Rohan wrote:They could start selling Wacken Volkswagens for all that I care. I'm not forced to buy them.
No you are not, luckily! :P but i feel wacken has lost some of it's romantic atmosphere. And i don't mean love-romantic but the feeling WOA is special and there's very few places like it. Now you can barely go to any metalconcert without WOA shirt etc. so it's lost it's charm of being 'special' for me. Now i attend smaller, more exclusive and cheaper festivals which suit my mood better. :)

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#88 Post by t.a.j. » 28 Dec 2010 16:37

End Of An Era wrote:Must admit 2008 was the last year i've been there (up until now) and what i described applied back then ;)
The Rider Of Rohan wrote:They could start selling Wacken Volkswagens for all that I care. I'm not forced to buy them.
No you are not, luckily! :P but i feel wacken has lost some of it's romantic atmosphere. And i don't mean love-romantic but the feeling WOA is special and there's very few places like it. Now you can barely go to any metalconcert without WOA shirt etc. so it's lost it's charm of being 'special' for me. Now i attend smaller, more exclusive and cheaper festivals which suit my mood better. :)
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#89 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 28 Dec 2010 19:34

No you are not, luckily! :P but i feel wacken has lost some of it's romantic atmosphere. And i don't mean love-romantic but the feeling WOA is special and there's very few places like it. Now you can barely go to any metalconcert without WOA shirt etc. so it's lost it's charm of being 'special' for me. Now i attend smaller, more exclusive and cheaper festivals which suit my mood better. :)
Well, I honestly don't see how the fact that there are people at concerts wearing a WOA-shirt could ruin a festival-going experience. To me a festival is about having a good time and watching great bands, and not about accumulating bragging-rights in the months afterwards. The fact that I can claim that I have been to something elusive doesn't even enter my mind. I'm there to drink beer, not to gather scenepoints.
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#90 Post by Insanity » 29 Dec 2010 01:09

Friends and I are considering to come back to Wacken in 2012, just for the sake of good old times... Hm... :)

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#91 Post by End Of An Era » 29 Dec 2010 13:16

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No you are not, luckily! :P but i feel wacken has lost some of it's romantic atmosphere. And i don't mean love-romantic but the feeling WOA is special and there's very few places like it. Now you can barely go to any metalconcert without WOA shirt etc. so it's lost it's charm of being 'special' for me. Now i attend smaller, more exclusive and cheaper festivals which suit my mood better. :)
Well, I honestly don't see how the fact that there are people at concerts wearing a WOA-shirt could ruin a festival-going experience. To me a festival is about having a good time and watching great bands, and not about accumulating bragging-rights in the months afterwards. The fact that I can claim that I have been to something elusive doesn't even enter my mind. I'm there to drink beer, not to gather scenepoints.
it might surprise you that there's beer outside wacken aswell! :o

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#92 Post by corrupted old gnom » 29 Dec 2010 14:35

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selling out to commerce through ridiculous merchandise articles, (ab)using the name for other fests who have nothing to do with WOA, wanting to expand beyond any reasonable numbers, raising ticketprices up until the point it juuuuust gets sold out to maximize profit and showing so few accomodities in return
Those last two points could've applied to the 2006-2008 editions, but definetely don't apply to 2009 and 2010 editions with all the improvements made. And I honestly don't see the problem with merchandising. They could start selling Wacken Volkswagens for all that I care. I'm not forced to buy them.
+1

it's not like I like each and every aspect, but they are doing a great job - they did indeed learn from some mistakes and I had nothing to complain about the last two years (at least not about something they could have influenced)
yet, I do not like the idea of bringing back circle pits and the wall of death
they are attracting morrons with those changes...something definitely not neccessary!
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#93 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 29 Dec 2010 15:02

True indeed. Last two years they did virtually everything right, including bringing back the atmosphere from 2000 - 2004. So the large number of visitors wasn't an issue (unless you want a festival to be an elitist thing, in which case you're indeed at the wrong place).

The WoD and Circle pits don't really bother me that much. I'm not fond of them, but then again, I have never been caught up in them. I usually stand behind them where's it actually possible to drink a beer. Plus, the bands that I see usually don't have them. I don't expect to see the Wall of Epic Death and the Immortal Circle Pit during Rhapsody's show.

The only thing they should ban are the crowdsurfers, as they're pretty annoying. I know: we always have a good time trying to hurt as many crowdsurfers as possible, yet it still detracts from the bands. And WOA could use some crowd-control in the form of fences within the crowd, but I don't suppose that will ever happen.

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#94 Post by End Of An Era » 29 Dec 2010 15:44

@Ferdi: i basically hear you saying you want Mojo to organize wacken? :shock:

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#95 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 29 Dec 2010 18:13

No, that's not what I said.
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#96 Post by No‘am » 29 Dec 2010 20:40

I hope they finally start acknowledging the fact that not every single person that comes to the festival is a German speaker.
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#97 Post by The Rider Of Rohan » 30 Dec 2010 01:19

I always order my drinks and food in Dutch, because Germans don't speal English and I refuse to talk German. And it always works.
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#98 Post by Dentarthurdent » 30 Dec 2010 01:26

Bastards. All of you.

A truly amazing Lineup, and now my cousin ismarrying that very saturday... -.-

Anyway, bes ure to watch The Prophecy²³! Those are actual pals of mine from Heilbronn, Germany, who got their frist record deal this spring, released their debut this summer and are now playing in fucking Wacken...
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#99 Post by No‘am » 30 Dec 2010 12:29

The Rider Of Rohan wrote:I always order my drinks and food in Dutch, because Germans don't speal English and I refuse to talk German. And it always works.
Hmm, nice idea, I'll try ordering in Dutch next time. Or in Yiddish. Could be interesting.
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#100 Post by End Of An Era » 30 Dec 2010 15:22

yiddish is kind of close to phonetic german, right? that you didn't think of that before :P

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