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What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 10 Jun 2010 12:37
by Raven_Wraith
Hey there guys!

I'm new to this forum, just joined a few minutes ago :D

I'm sure has been done 1k times but could anyone please name the scales that BG use when they write their songs? cheers :)

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 16 Jun 2010 18:44
by Desert_Storm
mostly really just major and (both natural/aeolic and melodic) minor scales. Of course, if you could mention a few songs/parts of songs I could tell you more about it, because just list all the scales they ever used seems a bit pointless to me :wink:
btw. welcome to [the slaughterhouse]/[dying] :)

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 18 Jun 2010 10:38
by spamel
I heard thee are quite popular, maybe they use them too:

http://www.scalesexpress.com/product.ph ... ctid=16273

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 18 Jun 2010 18:45
by Desert_Storm
spamel wrote:I heard thee are quite popular, maybe they use them too:
http://www.scalesexpress.com/product.ph ... ctid=16273
:P

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 19 Jul 2011 11:22
by martinsteve97
Blind guardian always sounds like a metal band. They always use major scale modes only. Now the question arises what is metal band.These are chords or scale which are only used for playing metals.

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 15 Dec 2012 18:18
by Lorn_Songster
forget about scales with them you focus on the chords changes and you got it, if you don't want to got crazy

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 23 Feb 2013 04:37
by teo_guardian
the last two posts hurt my eyes

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013 04:46
by Lorn_Songster
Youre welcome

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 02 Mar 2013 06:23
by Lorn_Songster
I've been trying to get the scales from Somewhere Far Beyond and Tales From The Twilight World, for example Tommyknockers or Traveler in Time, and you can't get ordinary scales (ionian aeolic and modulations) from that songs in many occassions. You take the main melody of traveler in time and TELL ME WHAT SCALE IS THAT, the most similar is some weird Indian raga 10 notes scale at best! For tommyknockers its a true nightmare, with the scales shifting through the chords, to me its GENIUS, hats off to Andre, because they havent made it again. For Quest for Tanelorn, the intro follows some arabic pattern (great Kai Hansen here), and then the bebop scale its whats more fit through this song and other songs of the album (and its precedessor too) like Ashes to Ashes

Are your eyes still hurt? Havent ended yet,

because they use a lot of modal scales, from Dorian in Mirror Mirror, to phrygian to locrian (Tommyknockers is very close but its a real nightmare in reality, if you can explain me musically this one Id be very greatful )

So yes , use your ears and follow the chords (mostly the bass) and you can follow the vocal melodies nicely, for soloing Im not good at all, but I guess someone with good ears will prefer to learn them note by note by ear and the get accustomed to play over the chords. Well Im no musician at all, but I always wondered how the hell did they do it 8)

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 04 Mar 2013 11:14
by Gandalf de Grijze
I thought they were using dragonscales, since they are impenetrable

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 31 May 2013 17:15
by Gardien Aveugle
Gandalf de Grijze wrote:I thought they were using dragonscales, since they are impenetrable
Best answer!!! :P :)

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 26 Apr 2014 18:44
by Rokubota
Lorn_Songster wrote:I've been trying to get the scales from Somewhere Far Beyond and Tales From The Twilight World, for example Tommyknockers or Traveler in Time, and you can't get ordinary scales (ionian aeolic and modulations) from that songs in many occassions. You take the main melody of traveler in time and TELL ME WHAT SCALE IS THAT, the most similar is some weird Indian raga 10 notes scale at best! For tommyknockers its a true nightmare, with the scales shifting through the chords, to me its GENIUS, hats off to Andre, because they havent made it again. For Quest for Tanelorn, the intro follows some arabic pattern (great Kai Hansen here), and then the bebop scale its whats more fit through this song and other songs of the album (and its precedessor too) like Ashes to Ashes

Are your eyes still hurt? Havent ended yet,

because they use a lot of modal scales, from Dorian in Mirror Mirror, to phrygian to locrian (Tommyknockers is very close but its a real nightmare in reality, if you can explain me musically this one Id be very greatful )

So yes , use your ears and follow the chords (mostly the bass) and you can follow the vocal melodies nicely, for soloing Im not good at all, but I guess someone with good ears will prefer to learn them note by note by ear and the get accustomed to play over the chords. Well Im no musician at all, but I always wondered how the hell did they do it 8)

it's funny because back in the days I had a friend who is a Classical guitarist and liked to visit my home quite often to listen to some BG solos but he never payed atention to Kai Hansen stuff like Hall Of The King or stufff like that, he always found Andre much more creative and interesting. I always thought that Kai Hansen was way better until 7 years ago when his solos bored me just like Schaffer's riffs does nowadays.

Re: What scales do Blind Guardian use?

Posted: 23 Aug 2017 05:06
by Jack09
Desert_Storm wrote:
16 Jun 2010 18:44
mostly really just major and (both natural/aeolic and melodic) Rachat de crédit minor scales. Of course, if you could mention a few songs/parts of songs I could tell you more about it, because just list all the scales they ever used seems a bit pointless to me :wink:
btw. welcome to [the slaughterhouse]/[dying] :)
how are you?