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A question to Germans

Posted: 15 Sep 2011 14:06
by nyobit
What does "hansi" or something that sounds similar mean? I've heard it been used in the context of a curse, but I'm not sure. I saw it been mentioned here before but didn't pay much attention back then. And now I can't find it nor does google help.

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 15 Sep 2011 14:32
by Frozen within
I think it means "he who leaves it all behind"

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 15 Sep 2011 16:18
by t.a.j.
Frozen within wrote:I think it means "he who leaves it all behind"
:mrgreen:

Hansi is a diminutive of Hans (or more rarely Hanns), a common German name. Hans is sometimes a short form of the name Johannes, the Germanized version of the hebrew name יוחנן (Jochanan). In English, the closest name would be Jonathan or John.

So it does not have any "meaning" beyond referencing certain persons named Hans or Johannes.

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 15 Sep 2011 21:19
by Dentarthurdent
and I can't remember any curse with Hansi in it.

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 15 Sep 2011 22:28
by wade-newb
I have another question to Germans: Why are your metal bands so damn good?!?!?!

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 15 Sep 2011 22:39
by Orodaran
Dentarthurdent wrote:and I can't remember any curse with Hansi in it.
Track 6 of Nightfall?

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 16 Sep 2011 00:39
by Little Dragon
Orodaran wrote:
Dentarthurdent wrote:and I can't remember any curse with Hansi in it.
Track 6 of Nightfall?
:lol:

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 16 Sep 2011 07:46
by End Of An Era
Curse you, Hansi! for being subject in a topic so full of WIN!! :lol:

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 16 Sep 2011 10:53
by Gandalf de Grijze
awesomeness:
Frozen within wrote:I think it means "he who leaves it all behind"
Orodaran wrote:
Dentarthurdent wrote:and I can't remember any curse with Hansi in it.
Track 6 of Nightfall?

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 17 Sep 2011 11:59
by Dentarthurdent
wade-newb wrote:I have another question to Germans: Why are your metal bands so damn good?!?!?!
you'd like to know, wouldn't you? ;)

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 17 Sep 2011 12:44
by wade-newb
Dentarthurdent wrote:
wade-newb wrote:I have another question to Germans: Why are your metal bands so damn good?!?!?!
you'd like to know, wouldn't you? ;)
Yes! Blind Guardian, Accept, Equilibrium, The Scorpions, Kreator, Rage... And so many others I haven't found yet! German metal is like the crux of my music taste.

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 17 Sep 2011 14:35
by t.a.j.
wade-newb wrote: Yes! Blind Guardian, Accept, Equilibrium, The Scorpions, Kreator, Rage... And so many others I haven't found yet! German metal is like the crux of my music taste.
I am slightly astonished to find Equlibrium in that list. But since that brand of semi folksy wannabe viking metal is all rage these days anyway....

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 18 Sep 2011 13:55
by wade-newb
t.a.j. wrote:
wade-newb wrote: Yes! Blind Guardian, Accept, Equilibrium, The Scorpions, Kreator, Rage... And so many others I haven't found yet! German metal is like the crux of my music taste.
I am slightly astonished to find Equlibrium in that list. But since that brand of semi folksy wannabe viking metal is all rage these days anyway....
Have you given Sagas a listen? It's not wannabe anything, it is what it is, and it's amazing! I'm not fond of all of their songs, but those that are so masterfully composed using traditional folk instruments are just so powerful to me. I can fully understand why people don't like them though; cookie-monster vocals, may sound like every other viking/folk metal band to some etc.

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 18 Sep 2011 16:02
by t.a.j.
Out of a bland and boring genre to begin with, Equilibrium stand out to me as singularly the worst of the bunch. From their uninspired rehashing of all the typical themes, to their almost comical insistence on epicness, to the amateurish use of their drum computer, to the pitiable attempt to create folkiness by keyboard, Equilibrium have taken the most ridiculous trend in a long history of ridiculous trends in metal and managed to take all its most ridiculous aspects to the extreme. Oh, the depths one has to sink to in order to make Ensiferum und Turisas sound good in comparison.

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 18 Sep 2011 17:04
by wade-newb
t.a.j. wrote:Out of a bland and boring genre to begin with, Equilibrium stand out to me as singularly the worst of the bunch. From their uninspired rehashing of all the typical themes, to their almost comical insistence on epicness, to the amateurish use of their drum computer, to the pitiable attempt to create folkiness by keyboard, Equilibrium have taken the most ridiculous trend in a long history of ridiculous trends in metal and managed to take all its most ridiculous aspects to the extreme. Oh, the depths one has to sink to in order to make Ensiferum und Turisas sound good in comparison.
I take it you vehemently dislike folk metal :lol:

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 18 Sep 2011 18:27
by t.a.j.
I don't. I love Skyclad.

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 18 Sep 2011 18:57
by Palantyre
I don't understand why Turisas still keeps getting dragged into these debates, when they have pretty much abandoned all pretense of "folk metal" ages ago.
Sure, they have an accordion player and violinist but that's pretty much it, they use elements of folk music like a movie soundtrack would use them; just parts of the show. I really really don't think Varangian Way or Stand Up and Fight should be filed under the same subgenre as Ensiferum and Equilibrium and all that lot, and even Battle Metal is straddling the fence quite precariously.

EDIT: And just so you know, the crappiest of the popular bands of the genre is Korpiklaani. Jesus fuck they are boring.

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 19 Sep 2011 18:38
by nyobit
Dentarthurdent wrote:and I can't remember any curse with Hansi in it.
It's probably not "hansi", but something that sounds similar (to foreigner at least). It could be something that people say when something is broken (like a door lock for example).

P.S. If Hansi is reading this: I am really sorry. In no way was I going to bring curses on you name.

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 20 Sep 2011 14:38
by Dentarthurdent
Well, he asked for it, didn't he?

@wade-newb: Helloween, Sodom, Destruction, Tankard, Grave Digger, Running Wild, Brainstorm, Circle of Silence, Edguy, Iron Savior, Lanfear(!!!), Powerwolf, Witchburner, Sinbreed...

:P

and of course the might(il)y (cheesy) FREEDOM CALL!

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 20 Sep 2011 15:22
by wade-newb
Dentarthurdent wrote:Well, he asked for it, didn't he?

@wade-newb: Helloween, Sodom, Destruction, Tankard, Grave Digger, Running Wild, Brainstorm, Circle of Silence, Edguy, Iron Savior, Lanfear(!!!), Powerwolf, Witchburner, Sinbreed...

:P

and of course the might(il)y (cheesy) FREEDOM CALL!
Ah yes! How could I have forgotten Grave Digger and the infamous Boltendahl accent xD
There are just so many good German bands :mrgreen:

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 21 Sep 2011 03:21
by Moonraven
(I know I'm new; don't judge me.) I might very well sound like a stalker, but... I don't intend to. 'Hansi' is a diminutive form of 'Hans Jürgen', and Hans itself means 'God is Gracious' or 'Gift from God'. t.a.j. pretty much has it covered in his previous post, though.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, though. I don't mean to barge in and sound like a know-it-all. :wink: And as far as I do know I've never heard of 'Hansi' being used as a curse...

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 21 Sep 2011 08:43
by t.a.j.
Moonraven wrote:'Hansi' is a diminutive form of 'Hans Jürgen', and Hans itself means 'God is Gracious' or 'Gift from God'. t.a.j. pretty much has it covered in his previous post, though.
Any reason why you color your post?
Anyway, Hans Jürgen is a double name like John Michael, They do not go together automatically. It is entirely possible that Blind Guardian's singer's full name could be Hans Jürgen Kürsch, oder Johannes Kürsch or Hans Friedrich Kürsch, he's a bit old to be a Hans Kevin Kürsch, though.
According to wikipedia, the Hewbrew version means "Yahweh is gracious", though the German name doesn't have any meaning in German.

Re: A question to Germans

Posted: 21 Sep 2011 21:38
by Moonraven
t.a.j. wrote:
Moonraven wrote:'Hansi' is a diminutive form of 'Hans Jürgen', and Hans itself means 'God is Gracious' or 'Gift from God'. t.a.j. pretty much has it covered in his previous post, though.
Any reason why you color your post?

No important reason. It's just kind of my trademark on any forum. But if it's a bother I won't do so.