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#1 Post by End Of An Era » 23 Jun 2009 19:41

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i lolled, no offence to herbiv... ehm vegetarians..

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#2 Post by Orodaran » 23 Jun 2009 19:42

I loled too, and I don't care if people take offense - ligthen up a bit every now and then :P
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#3 Post by Joost » 23 Jun 2009 19:49

'Vegan-curious', wtf, is that the new bi-curious or something? :lol:
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#4 Post by Sleeping Dragon » 23 Jun 2009 21:14

well, it's the same, only with vegetables.
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#5 Post by Dentarthurdent » 23 Jun 2009 21:34

haha, that's cool :D:D
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#6 Post by Chiri » 23 Jun 2009 21:41

LOL

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#7 Post by Little Dragon » 23 Jun 2009 21:54

i hate you. :evil:
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#8 Post by Chiri » 23 Jun 2009 21:54

:lol:
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#9 Post by Led Guardian » 23 Jun 2009 22:37

For the vegan-curious

Undoubtedly many of you have already seen this, but oh well.
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#10 Post by End Of An Era » 23 Jun 2009 23:06

Led Guardian wrote:For the vegan-curious

Undoubtedly many of you have already seen this, but oh well.
indeed, and my comment as earlier: (though not on this board) What good is a girl who doesn't want to eat my meat?? :P

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#11 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 23 Jun 2009 23:43

just as good as the yucky p[iece of vegetable on your plate that you hate?
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#12 Post by End Of An Era » 23 Jun 2009 23:46

oh, don't get me wrong, i like my veggies :)

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#13 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 23 Jun 2009 23:47

i like veggies.. just not all of them, and teh yuck ones are teh ones i'm talking about
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#14 Post by End Of An Era » 23 Jun 2009 23:51

like fennil, zuccini, broccoli and egg plant? yeah :P

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#15 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 23 Jun 2009 23:52

broccoli, brussel sprouts, white cabbage, chinese cabbage and spinach for me
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#16 Post by Sleeping Dragon » 24 Jun 2009 08:47

veggies are awesome, almost all of them. including the ones you mentioned. those work most excellently alongside meat, so basically you're just missing on all the fun by hating them.
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#17 Post by End Of An Era » 24 Jun 2009 10:15

as long as i am eating meat, i can't be missing out on much :P

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#18 Post by Belgarion » 24 Jun 2009 10:50

Gandalf de Grijze wrote:broccoli, brussel sprouts, white cabbage, chinese cabbage and spinach for me
I agree with you except for spinach. Pop Eye made me love it and eat it of course 8)
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#19 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 24 Jun 2009 11:49

it is teh one vegetable i can't eat at all without puking right away
on a bad day teh smell alone is enough


now.. curly kail.. that is one vegetable of which there simply can't ever be enough in this world.. especially in a dutch hotchpotch
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#20 Post by Joost » 24 Jun 2009 12:14

Broccoli is just fine, so is spinach, and I even like much-hated vegetables such as brussels sprouts and chicory.

But, other than that, I like my meat too! I'm just a healthy omnivore, as humans are supposed to be! :P :mrgreen:
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#21 Post by End Of An Era » 24 Jun 2009 16:20

Joost wrote:Broccoli is just fine, so is spinach, and I even like much-hated vegetables such as brussels sprouts and chicory.

But, other than that, I like my meat too! I'm just a healthy omnivore, as humans are supposed to be! :P :mrgreen:
my teeth and abdomen agree!! :D

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#22 Post by Joost » 25 Jun 2009 00:44

Hm. In the original vegan-ad, it mentions the support as being "non-judgmental".

I kind of wonder, though, how non-judgmental those people would be towards people who eat meat.
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#23 Post by Little Dragon » 25 Jun 2009 00:45

not very? ;)
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#24 Post by Joost » 25 Jun 2009 00:50

But isn't that the whole point of being non-judgemental? I mean, probably most racists are quite non-judgemental towards people of their own race.
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#25 Post by Little Dragon » 25 Jun 2009 00:52

and so are vegetarians towards their own. have you ever had a dicussion with a vegan?
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#26 Post by Joost » 25 Jun 2009 01:04

Well, the first vegan I can think of isn't really that judgemental to be honest.

That however doesn't stop me from suspecting that, here, 'non-judgemental' is mostly a euphemism for 'accepting vegans'.
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#27 Post by Little Dragon » 25 Jun 2009 01:09

accept them or tolerate them?
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#28 Post by End Of An Era » 25 Jun 2009 11:29

i guess it means the vegans aren't judgemental towards the vegetarians for eating animal products :lol:

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#29 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 25 Jun 2009 11:32

but quite judgemental when it concerns eating meat, i reckon
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#30 Post by End Of An Era » 25 Jun 2009 11:38

unfortunately that goes for most vegetarians. Like religious people, vegetarians often see their path as the one and only right one, and try to convert as many people as they can.

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#31 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 25 Jun 2009 11:39

ehm.. all 2 vegetarians i know don't spout their vegetarianism as the one true religion
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#32 Post by End Of An Era » 25 Jun 2009 11:59

Gandalf de Grijze wrote:ehm.. all 2 vegetarians i know don't spout their vegetarianism as the one true religion
ask yourself: can only two persons be a representative average of this enourmous group? ;)

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#33 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 25 Jun 2009 12:03

yes :twisted:
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#34 Post by End Of An Era » 25 Jun 2009 12:18

really? i thought someone in a beta-orientated line of study would know more of standard deviation and representative group sizes :P

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#35 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 25 Jun 2009 12:22

where there's one there's bound to be more..

but seriously, i think there are far more vegetarians who don't spout it as their religion than there are vegetarians who do
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#36 Post by End Of An Era » 25 Jun 2009 12:34

they might not be walking in the street with a sign saying eating meat is wrong, as most religious people don't, but when in conversation, it all comes together ;)

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#37 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 25 Jun 2009 12:36

still don't think they'd be throwing away the meat from your plate and forcing you to eat vegetarian.
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#38 Post by End Of An Era » 25 Jun 2009 13:45

in 10th grade i had a couple of girls walking around class and asking what was for lunch. Whenever meat was involved they'd say: "I smell death and decay on you"

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#39 Post by Joost » 25 Jun 2009 14:48

End Of An Era wrote:really? i thought someone in a beta-orientated line of study would know more of standard deviation and representative group sizes :P
Well, is your sample group representative, then? And if not, have you any independent research to back up your position? ;)
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#40 Post by ThePKH » 25 Jun 2009 15:34

I don't like people eating vegetables. Just because these vegetables have been properly lobotomized it doesn't strip them of human rights.
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#41 Post by End Of An Era » 25 Jun 2009 16:37

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End Of An Era wrote:really? i thought someone in a beta-orientated line of study would know more of standard deviation and representative group sizes :P
Well, is your sample group representative, then? And if not, have you any independent research to back up your position? ;)
well since i stated veggies often fall into a certain group, it is open for discussion what often is, therefore i do not need hard data to back it up :P

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#42 Post by Joost » 25 Jun 2009 16:40

Well, you wrote "unfortunately that goes for most vegetarians", thereby claiming that it was the case for a majority. ;) Which is a thing I doubt, and if you make a claim that is not backed up by hard data, and I cast doubt on that claim, the burden of proof is yours.
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Watch our empires sink and wash away like castles made of sand.
And so cast off the lies that are your lives and find the truth within.
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#43 Post by End Of An Era » 25 Jun 2009 17:24

Joost wrote:Well, you wrote "unfortunately that goes for most vegetarians", thereby claiming that it was the case for a majority. ;) Which is a thing I doubt, and if you make a claim that is not backed up by hard data, and I cast doubt on that claim, the burden of proof is yours.
That exact phrase refers to the wether or not being judgemental towards meat-eating persons. ;) the "often" refers to my statement of the parallel towards religion :)

This next i cannot back-up with hard data, but i think most vegetarians are vegetarian because of disgust of the meat-production industry or pity towards the animals. That would make such a vegetarian saying he's not judgemental towards meat-eaters a big hypocrit, since he would condemn the industry but not the consumers. See the paradox there, like the dutch soft-drug production :P

Are there any more reasons not to eat meat? allergy? i assume one can safely say that's not a big group :P

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#44 Post by Joost » 25 Jun 2009 18:12

But the fact that they choose to become vegetarian because of animal suffering, does not necessarily mean that they are judgmental to non-vegetarians, now does it?
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#45 Post by End Of An Era » 25 Jun 2009 19:09

of course it does ;) basically their choice not to eat meat judges all of the meat-eaters, now doesn't it?

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#46 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 25 Jun 2009 23:52

the fact that i vote a green left party doesn't mean i find right winged liberalist voters lesser then me, i don't judge them because i have a different opinion
same should be with vegetarianism..

the choice to be a vegetarian due to animal suffering, doesn't mean you can't respect other peoples choices to eat meat.
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#47 Post by End Of An Era » 25 Jun 2009 23:56

au contraire, I feel your confusing well social manners with your own judgement. When you vote left-wing, your judgement is that right-wing is lesser. That would automatically imply you find people who vote right-wing to have an inferieur political standpoint. Normal social behaviour accepts and respects such, but your vote says right-wing is wrong. ;)

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#48 Post by Gandalf de Grijze » 26 Jun 2009 00:02

if i were truely judgmental, judging a person for their choice, you and i would probably have gotten along badly in the political aspect.. and our friendship would have gotten a big blow due to that

so the social aspect is as much a part of it as the choice itself is. thinking a person is a lesser person due to a different opinion is what makes it judgemental. not having made a choice for a or b itself.
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#49 Post by No‘am » 26 Jun 2009 00:02

By the way, while we're on it, milking cows and egg-laying chickens usually suffer much much more than those intended for meat products, so animal suffering isn't a very good reason for being vegetarian imo
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#50 Post by Cerbere » 26 Jun 2009 05:15

Thats why some people are vegan

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